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| Victor |
Posted - 19/04/2008 : 14:38:08
Recently I was looking in a building site skip and found a small generator in it. no!! not a dynohub! Just a petrol 1KW or less small generator.It looks to me to be only about 2 years old.
Anyway! Who on their right minds would want to chuck away a small generator? Basically the sdite manager said that it must have been from some person that was on the site before him....
I asked if I could have it and he said yes!!!
I`m now the owner of a small petrol generator that i think will output 500 watts.
It says it can produce 240 volts ac and around 12 volts 8 amp!!
I`ll have to get some help from the forum about what petrol it should take! Maybe 2 stroke at 1/100? Maybe 4 star unleaded...
Pictures to follow in the next week!!
WHAT A GOOD FIND!! But not very green! lol |
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| windymiller |
Posted - 21/04/2008 : 17:21:01
Hi victor....sounds like a good find.
Forgive me ,Im not trying to be negative but something tells me the motor could be damaged.Hence probably why it was thrown into the skip!!!.
Usually these type of motors get damaged because the operator could'nt be bothered to put two stroke oil in with the petrol.
What usually happens is the motor will run until either it seizes up or loses compression due to rapid piston ring and bore wear.....or big end and little end failure...
Check that it has good compression....if compression is poor you'll have problems starting it.
Cheers WM. |
| Capt Slog |
Posted - 21/04/2008 : 15:58:39
quote:
Originally posted by BushWhacker
But Capt Slog, Belray makes MC1. I guess it is marketed in the UK.
Cheers!
BW
It was Belray? 
Well, at least we're both thinking on the right lines
My days of that stuff are long gone, I switched from 2 stroke Japanese to 4 stroke Italian (Ducati) and then to safe but boring 4 stroke 4 wheels. |
| BushWhacker |
Posted - 21/04/2008 : 15:18:08
But Capt Slog, Belray makes MC1. I guess it is marketed in the UK.
Cheers!
BW
Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not one bit simpler. - Albert Einstein |
| Capt Slog |
Posted - 21/04/2008 : 11:21:30
quote:
Originally posted by BushWhacker
"I must be doing peoples heads in asking for help on this generator because it`s the least GREEN thing thats I`m using!!"
Not at all! The thing is you are seeking advise to get your gen unit running as clean as possible. There is nothing wrong with that.
On a side note concerning your gas oil mix, perhaps you ought to start with a slightly richer mix with MC1. Say 50:1 and see how your spark plug looks after that. I recall working up slowly from 50:1, and in my case it was all about power. Less oil = more gas in the same volume of charge. All the same at 50:1 there will be a heck of a lot less smoke than some 30:1 low grade oil.
Cheers!
BW
Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not one bit simpler. - Albert Einstein
I'm with Bushwacker on the ratio bit, I think I have one that is similar to yours but "badged" differently. I'm sure that it uses 50:1 or even more (where more is 30:1 for example )
The 'nice' 2 stroke oil equivalent here on the uk used to be Belray. Used in 2 stroke racing machines and my early motorbikes (ah those were the days!) Like the MC1+ stuff mentioned, it does enable a lower ratio but keeping it at the higher ratio makes for very little wear.
Nice find by the way. Jammy even. |
| BushWhacker |
Posted - 21/04/2008 : 01:41:45
"I must be doing peoples heads in asking for help on this generator because it`s the least GREEN thing thats I`m using!!"
Not at all! The thing is you are seeking advise to get your gen unit running as clean as possible. There is nothing wrong with that.
On a side note concerning your gas oil mix, perhaps you ought to start with a slightly richer mix with MC1. Say 50:1 and see how your spark plug looks after that. I recall working up slowly from 50:1, and in my case it was all about power. Less oil = more gas in the same volume of charge. All the same at 50:1 there will be a heck of a lot less smoke than some 30:1 low grade oil.
Cheers!
BW
Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not one bit simpler. - Albert Einstein |
| Victor |
Posted - 20/04/2008 : 20:15:29
Thanks Bushwacker,
I must be doing peoples heads in asking for help on this generator because it`s the least GREEN thing thats I`m using!! However the generator will be handy for putting up wind turbines in fields in the future and also backup power supply.
It`s just a nice little thing to get a hold of for free...
I`ll ask the local motor bike shop for some help. they will help me to use the right fuel and mix..
Thanks folks for your help on getting this little generator up and running..... |
| BushWhacker |
Posted - 20/04/2008 : 08:45:51
Hi Victor,
Great find! As for the 2 stroke oil I used MC1+ back in my dirt bike days. http://preview.tinyurl.com/4d98m8 The '+' was a little bit of xylene to boost the octane rating of the gasoline (petrol) a little bit.
The lubrication qualities of MC1 are so good that you can use less oil in the mix. (I used 60:1) This makes for less smoke, less spark plug fouling and more power as there is less oil being burned in the combustion chamber on each power stroke.
As you are using this genny as 'back up' only I would suggest using 'premium' gasoline (yes I know, the pricy stuff) and add some 'fuel stabilizer' http://www.sta-bil.com/sta-bil/products.htm to keep the fuel in better condition for extended periods. Storing the genny in a cool shaded area will help preserve the gasoline as well.
I don't know if MC1 and Stabil are available in the UK but I'm sure there are similar products available. Your best bet to find the 2 stroke oil would be an off road motorcycle shop. The fuel stabilizer should be available at most large automotive supply stores.
I hope this helps,
BW
Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not one bit simpler. - Albert Einstein |
| Victor |
Posted - 19/04/2008 : 21:16:03
I have found the full specifications of the generator I hasve found.All I need to get right now is the exact type of fuel and how to mix it so I don`t damage the engine!!
I`m used to four stroke petrol engines on my gasrdening equipment ,but 2 stroke is sort of throwing me into a mixture I know nothing about.
Nutool MNPG950 2.4HP Generator
Portable Generator
Power output 650w
1 Hp
0.8 Kva max output
Recoil start
4 Ltr fuel tank
C.D.I. Ignition system.
Brushless, 2 poles, single phase, 2 stroke, forced air cooled, HM82 engine. 63ml engine displacement.
Portable Generator 0.65 kva £69.00
At the end of the day this is a great find!!
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| Victor |
Posted - 19/04/2008 : 20:49:52
Thanks for your help everyone so far.I will post pictures of it in the next few days when I get it home.I`m going to have to walk 3 to 4 miles with it on my little metal cart,but I think it`s worth it. I think it is very similar to the picture ben posted. The only difference is mine is a blue colour.
I just think the person that put it in the bin is MAD!! lol It is in really good condition and powerrs up. However I have removed the petrol in it as a mate said it would be old stuff and damage the machine.
My project for next week is to get it home and clean it all up then post pictures of it and see what fuel it needs to run!!
Pity it`s not diesel, but it`s worth using for an emergency generator.... NOT AT ALL GREEN I KNOW!! But HANDY!! |
| Sundowner |
Posted - 19/04/2008 : 19:29:45
Hi Victor,
Please post a picture of your skip find, I may have an instruction manual. If the tank is yellow I may have the same model here.
Sundowner....huh.........thats what they call us.......Sundowners |
| gotwind |
Posted - 19/04/2008 : 15:00:03
Nice find Victor.
Shame it isn't diesel powered, you could run it off chip oil or similar.
I suspect the alternator inside would be similar to a cars? and spin at very high revs, no good for wind unfortunatly.
I am always amazed what people throw out, the chinese petrol generators are surprisingly cheap.
http://www.iosss.com/shopping/review.asp?prod=1801
Good rule of thumb, U.S members just double any UK prices and you shouldn't be far off dollar price.
The Futures Green - Getwind of it. |
